December 18, 2017

Maine’s F&G Biologist Kantar Will Oversee Fate of Moose, Leave Deer Behind (Literally and Figuratively)

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Last week George Smith, former head of the Sportsman’s Alliance of Maine now turned blogger/journalist/reporter, wrote on his blog that as part of the Maine Department of Inland Fisheries and Wildlife’s (MDIFW) “restructuring”, Commissioner Woodcock, with the approval of Governor Paul LePage, decided that MDIFW needed a separate head deer biologist and a separate head moose biologist. Currently Lee Kantar has held the position as both deer and moose head biologist.

In addition to Smith’s report of the restructuring, he stated that Kantar was given his choice by the Commissioner, of whether he wanted to be head deer or head moose biologist.

Lee Kantar, the agency’s deer biologist, “assumed responsibility for moose as a favor to the department,” said Chandler, who also announced that he offered Kantar his choice of species, and he took moose.

Favor? Hmmm, interesting perspective.

In a separate report filed by John Holyoke of the Bangor Daily News, we read about comments made by Lee Kantar, efforts by MDIFW to conduct moose and deer aerial count surveys and some data that seems to support earlier claims that Maine’s moose herd is at least triple what hunters and wildlife enthusiast have been told for many years now.

While the first part of Holyoke’s report attempts to gloss over the dismal deer harvest report by stating:

While Kantar hasn’t crunched all the numbers from the 2011 hunting season, he expects that more than 18,000 deer were taken by hunters. That’s a significant increase from preseason projections, which put the number under 17,000.

The numbers are out and the actual harvest number stands at 18,170 deer taken. However, somehow trying to make the 2011 deer hunt a success by spinning the facts to make it look like there’s a “significant increase” because what could have been didn’t happen, isn’t getting the job done.

Aside from that, Holyoke’s report along with data from Kantar, tells us Maine may have as many as 100,000 moose, all the while for the past decade we have been told that Maine has 29,000 moose and that moose lottery permits have been allotted during that time to maintain a moose herd of 29,000.

George Smith reported in one of his earlier blogs and Holyoke brings it up in his report, that former moose biologist Kim Morris recently stated that Maine probably has around 60,000 – 90,000 moose. However, Kantar is sure there are less than that but far more than 29,000.

Without fully analyzing the new data that has been collected, Kantar feels fairly confident that an estimate of 75,000 moose is accurate.

His new data comes from last year and this year doing helicopter aerial surveys to count moose.

It should be extremely disturbing to everyone that Maine has been saying the state has 29,000 moose and now they “feels fairly confident” that there are 75,000. This isn’t chump change. Who has been heading up the moose management in Maine up to this point?

Also, is this statement a misprint or an attempt at humor?

“One of my biggest concerns is, we have a lot of moose in certain areas, and then we have a lot of areas where we have a lot of moose,”

Assuming it is a stab at humor and bears a resemblance to some truth, what Kantar is saying is Maine has a lot of moose. He then turns around and tells Holyoke that just because we have three times the number of moose the state has been managing for, doesn’t mean we can increase permits so hunters can take more moose. This is followed by this ridiculous comment:

“We realize, more than anything, that moose are valued economically for viewing as well as hunting opportunity as well as being on the landscape and just the aesthetic of moose,” Kantar said. “We balance all those things. That’s our job.”

Balance, balance, balance. I wonder if wildlife managers anymore have any idea what they are doing except hiding behind some kind of shroud that requires invoking that magical word “balance”, as though balance was some kind nirvana achieved only by those most enlightened?

Are we to pretend to be stupid and say nothing when for years we have been told that 29,000 moose in Maine is a good number, perhaps even “balanced”, by using their own jargon? And then, within weeks we are told there are 75,000 moose but that’s not enough to provide more hunting opportunities and Maine is “balanc[ing] all those things”. This makes little sense and stinks of agenda-driven wildlife management.

Mr. Kantar does not make MDIFW policy but this kind of crap sandwich issued by our fish and game department is the stuff that drives hunters away in disgust. The state is trying to figure out why nobody from out of state wants to come to Maine to hunt deer and they act clueless. What are they going to do when the residents stop buying licenses? And here’s an even bigger question somebody at IFW ought to answer. Whose money and efforts set the stage to provide the resources necessary that Maine now has 75,000 moose? Here’s a hint for all you at MDIFW. It wasn’t the environmentalist clowns and animal rights freaks or even those who use are resources and contribute nothing to them. Now that we’ve fronted the money and made our investment, you want to send us away telling us these aren’t our moose.

I don’t have to be a biologist to understand that 75,000 moose, the majority of them living in the same regions of Northern Maine where the deer herd has been run into the ground, isn’t a very promising prospect when those same moose are in direct competition with the deer.

As long as MDIFW and the governor of the State of Maine insists that 75,000 moose or more is good for moose watching and helps to “balance” the landscape and provide increased “aesthetic of moose”, there will never be a rebuilt deer herd because I don’t think they know how to do it.

Here’s the key question: If Lee Kantar was the head deer biologist and the deer herd is in the poorest condition it has been in, perhaps in the last century, should the Commissioner have given him the choice to move on to another species?

If Maine has been managing its deer herd in the same fashion as stated above, “economically for viewing as well as hunting opportunity as well as being on the landscape and just the aesthetic(s)”, and we now have a deer herd that may never return in 2/3rds of the state, what then are we to expect of the condition of our moose herd a decade from now?

*Update*: March 14, 2012, 1:45 p.m.

If you look below at the comments left concerning this article, you will notice a comment left by John Holyoke, author of the Bangor Daily News article linked to in this report. Mr. Holyoke states: “John Holyoke here: A clarification: The passage attributed to Lee contained a mistake (on my part). It should have said, ‘We have a lot of moose in certain areas, and then we have a lot of areas where we have hardly any moose.'”

It is important to make this clarification because of my reference in the article wondering if Mr. Kantar was making an attempt at humor. One would assume after reading Mr. Holyoke’s comment, there was a misprint or typo and not an attempt at humor. This eases the thoughts that coming at a time of serious discussions about the condition of both Maine’s deer and moose herds, the head biologist was not attempting to pass off the seriousness through ill-timed humor.

This is not a case of humor, however, this does not change the fact that Mr. Kantar did state that he is comfortable with an estimate of 75,000 moose in the state of Maine.

Tom Remington

  • Bonedog

    Quite a tale of woe.
    Adding the Moose numbers to the deer mix makes the whole ‘management’ thing seem even more surreal. Deer, Moose or Bear numbers are unsubstantiated by any set of facts and numbers known to the average hunter.
    Kantar joked that his parting gift to the world of White-tailed Deer was a warm and cuddly winter just past. There will be all sorts of deer roaming the forests of Maine really soon. You betcha.
    The warm winter statement alone led me to believe that he doesn’t have much faith in his ability to grow the deer herd in his former role of being the chief deer biologist. It was all luck as Mother Nature turns things out.
    What would be interesting to have is:
    • a list of and location of all identified wintering areas.
    • a map of these and information about the wintering area such as when it became a wintering area.
    • how big it is.
    • the name of the landowner(s).
    • state of forest maturation and types of trees.
    • numbers of deer using the area now and historically.
    • What is IF&W’s plan for managing that area and the role of Maine Forest Service?
    • How many deer it can support now, in a decade and in 30 years.
    Yeah, I know. It would be lots of work to create something like that but if IF&W has not been doing something like this what have they been doing?
    I suspect that Kantar, with the encouragement, or at least acquiescence of fellow IF&W employees and managers, has destroyed job security, funding and believability for the agency for a long, long time.
    May the light of Algor and ‘Global Warming Theory’ protect and comfort you.

  • alrem

    Is that a real picture of Lee Kantar? If it is, he looks angry at something. I hope it’s not the deer. He was in charge of deer, you know. Funny, when he was, the moose grew. Maybe if he takes charge of the moose the deer will grow – if it don’t snow, that is.

    Now all we have to do is see which one will last the longest, the moose or Kantar gittin’ dun’.

  • Mainiac710

    The news that Mr. Kantar is now the Moose biologist is good for the Deer, but bad for the Moose!

    However, before all the deer rise to their feet to give Mr. Kantar a standing ovation and bid him a hearty “fare-thee-well” as he embarks on his journey into the land of moose aplenty, they would like to know with some high degree of certainty, just who it is that will replace him!

    Deer, like most of us, would prefer not to leave the frying pan, only to land in the fire! If IF&W selects the replacement from within the current staff of biologists, some of whom could not compete with a fifth grader in a math test, then those of you who think that the sad state of affairs in deer management couldn’t get any worse, may be in for a rude awakening!

    A better plan would be to find a well qualified, unemployed candidate who is a “dyed in the wool” deer hunter. Someone, preferably a Maine resident, who possesses critical thinking faculties and finds the flavor of cool-aid distasteful. Let’s strengthen the current cut-and-paste “Game Plan For Deer” with bold, new initiatives. Compare what Maine is doing to what has been successful in other states, like the Utah plan, and employ their strategies here.

    I also recommend that the services of this deer biologist be retained on an annual contractual basis, with certain verifiable performance benchmarks that must be achieved, before his contract could be renewed. More scientific study only leads to analysis paralysis. God knows we have had enough of that!

    What we need now is some action!

  • alrem

    How can one respond in proper fashion when consistently faced with the fraudulent acts that have been taking place? The “department” has studied and task-forced itself to the poor-house with absolutely nothing to show for it except a JOB-TITLE CHANGE? Magnifico!!

    Magnifico Department of Fraud and no Wildlife.


  • alrem

    “We realize, more than anything, that moose are valued economically for viewing as well as hunting opportunity as well as being on the landscape and just the (now, everyone, hold hands) aesthetic of moose,” Kantar said. “We balance all those things. That’s our job.”

    …right, Mr. Kantar. A big juggling act, but I think you dropped something…

    Well, I had to look up aesthetics to be sure:

    Aesthetics (also spelled æsthetics or esthetics) is a branch of philosophy dealing with the nature of beauty, art, and taste, and with the creation and appreciation of beauty.[1] It is more scientifically defined as the study of sensory or sensori-emotional values, sometimes called judgments of sentiment and taste.[2] More broadly, scholars in the field define aesthetics as “critical reflection on art, culture and nature.”

    • TRemington


    • Mainiac710

      As Governor LePage is fond of saying, “Where’s the OUTRAGE?”

      Well Governor…… is everywhere. All you have to do is take a few moments and listen!

  • John Holyoke here: A clarification: The passage attributed to Lee contained a mistake (on my part). It should have said, ‘We have a lot of moose in certain areas, and then we have a lot of areas where we have hardly any moose.'”

    • TRemington

      Thanks John. That paints a better picture of his comments.

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  • that guy…

    have you actually sat down to talk with him? probably not. are you a biologist? probably not. just a whiner. thanks for offering no potential solutions. lee’s a real nice guy who wants what’s best for the state, the hunters, the farmers… he’s got a good head on his shoulders.

    • TRemington

      From all indications and all dealings I have had with Lee, he is a real nice guy…..but that’s not the issue here.

      As is typical because someone disagrees with the environmental talking points and the poor wildlife management indoctrination that’s a product of our institutions of higher brainwashing, you feel the need to call me a whiner will offering no solutions.

      Perhaps instead of you whining about the information I offer to readers, you should spend a bit more time reading and you’d discover that I spend a great deal of time educating and offering better solutions.

      But that’s probably not what you’re interested in hearing. Perhaps this stuff threatens your comfort level and challenges independent thinking.

      Whether Lee Kantar is a nice guy has nothing to do with the non scientific ideology he has been taught in school.

      It is my intention to expose that fraud so we can get back to managing wildlife using the proven North American Model of Wildlife Conservation.