November 20, 2017

Denial and Foolishness of Hybridized Wolves

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HybridWolvesDr. Valerius Geist, Will Graves and Dr. Charles Kay are at least three people who warned that forcing wolves into human populated areas was a terrible idea and that attempting to do so would produce countless problems. One of those problems was the uncontrollable threat of cross breeding or hybridization of wolves with other canines, i.e. other hybrids, domestic dogs and yes coyotes.

I’ve been reporting lately of incidences in Europe where wild canine hybrids, labeled as wolves, are being protected by the government. Even an untrained eye can examine photographs of many of these “wolves” and quite easily tell the differences between pure wolves and mutts. Those in Europe are mostly mutts. The truth is there is really no way of stopping it.

Closer to home, wildlife officials in Washington state, had to locate one of their collared laboratory wolves that had gone on a wild fling with a domestic male sheep dog. A report from NBC News said a sheep dog scaled a 7-foot fence to find love in the afternoon.

Biologists learned that a sheep dog climbed a 7-foot-tall fence from its yard near Ione and disappeared with the two female wolves in January and February, when wolves go into heat.

According to reports, officials used a helicopter and tranquilizer guns to drug two female wolves. One wolf had become pregnant from the sheep dog (at least they assume it was the sheep dog. I don’t know if any paternity tests were done.) and the fetuses were aborted. Both wolves were released.

In another report in the Spokesman Review, an official was quoted as saying:

“Our goal is the restoration of a native wolf population, not producing a generation of hybrids we’d have to take care of in another way later.”

And how is it that this “restoration of a native wolf population” is going to not become hybridized? The same officials states:

“If there had been a male wolf in the group, the dog would have been killed instantly.”

Perhaps so, but according to this same official, the two females were alone and thus copulation commenced…..willingly, according to the official. I won’t ask how he knew that.

But consider this. This dog, that evidently caught wind of at least one of those two female wolves in estrus (in heat), climbed a 7-foot tall fence to get in on some action. After all, a dog is a dog is a dog when it comes to breeding in times of estrus. So, if one dog climbed a 7-foot fence how many other dogs not behind fences or chained up are going to sniff opportunity in the wind and successfully mate with other female wolves in estrus with no male wolf to “kill them instantly?”

But let’s turn the role playing around. What is going to happen when a male wolf, not satisfied with the harem he must attend to in the bush, gets wind of Muffy Flanagan’s poodle, Fluffy, going into estrus? If uncaught the offspring becomes wolf hybrid dogs and then what happens?

Geist, Graves and Kay warned hearing impaired officials that trying to reproduce a “native wolf population” near human inhabited areas wasn’t going to work.

As pertains to this story, today Dr. Geist made the following comment:

Well, well, well…What do you know. Ghosts of predictions past! My wife had to quickly slip inside our house when the male wolf confronted her over our German Longhair pointer estrus state. Several male dogs in the neighborhood showed up, but the wolf was the boldest!

How long before we are going to have a forest full of angry and hungry mongrel dogs that some people are still going to demand need protecting? If we follow the lead of what’s happening in Europe, it shouldn’t be too long.

Hang on!

  • GoldDust

    No wonder Boone and Crocket refuse to open up a records section for wolf skull measurements.. They said the same thing years ago. No way to know if it’s a pure wolf, no section. Laughing my ass off here. The wolf and environmentalist wolf pimp baloney show never ceases to astound astonish and amaze.

  • From what I have gathered from my friends in Finland only one shewolf in a pack goes in to estrus. That beeing the alpha. In a pack of hybrids however, several can go into estrus at once. This gives unprecendented reproductive capacity.

    Other data from Finland is that breeding between pure wolf and dog is close to unheard of. Dog generally ends up as food. But if the wolf has the slightest of dog in it breeding is ok. First generation of hybrids are the result of mating in captivity.

    Hybrids are big business and people have been cought with this “industry”.

    If you use google translate you can read this article on hybrids and illegal activities:

    • Idaho_Roper

      Another wolf myth……they are all dogs and they breed as such.

    • Chandie Bartell

      No such thing as an Alpha Pair. The Alpha Male will breed with all members in the pack in heat including his own daughters.

  • Idaho_Roper

    As long as there is money in it the pimps don’t care if they are poodle/pomeranian mixes. this is after all, not really about wolves, but money and agendas

  • Robert Fanning

    What pathetic , spineless fools to have allowed this virus to have spread to Ore . & Wa. without vehement opposition and civil disobedience.The “wolf” commission was made up of pro-wolfers and “go along to get along” types who refused to stand up and be counted when the need arose. The Washington Cattlemen’s Association has sued; not sure where that is; probably won’t go anywhere. Damned fools, the whole bunch.

  • Chandie Bartell

    This isn’t my post I copied it from Steve Busch: Apparently a couple of hunters in Finland are using the “they are all hybrids” defense as they have been charged with illegally shooting 3 wolves, which they are claiming are hybrids. Russian scientists are supporting their claim. Our Norse friend Tor sent this to me, and it is very relevant to our situation. See the Swedish article I posted on my FB page, and the rough translation using Google Translate. THIS IS A HUGE STORY!

    • Idaho_Roper

      That claim may work there as I do not know the specifics of their law. It will not work here as our fraudulent law allows for hybrids to be protected.

      We already know that all the mexican wolves are hybrids, but they were allowed to be dumped and protected anyway. They covered their bases in this regard and is yet another piece of evidence that this is not really about protecting actual wolves, but the larger agenda behind the fraud known as wolf recovery.

  • Chandie Bartell


    Here’s a rough translation from the Swedish using Google Translate

    Picture : Police Authority Finland

    Vildhundsdsflock killed by Russian border. The risk is great that wolf hybrids continue entering Finland.

    The whole of the Finnish wolf population can be a sort of hybrids after
    they laika – wolf mixes as the Soviet border guards took up. We know
    very little about what happened to the animals when the Soviet Union
    collapsed….says Lauri Kontro , Chairman of the Finnish hunters’
    association on the issue of dog involvement in the Finnish wolf

    In Sweden, both the Minister for Rural Affairs
    Eskil Erlandsson and former Environment Minister Andreas Carlgren said
    that we should not have wolf hybrids in the Swedish forests . The
    question is an issue in Finland.

    “We know that there are
    hybrids. A few years ago police killed a whole hybrid wolf pack. Last
    fall, police killed some in Tohmajärvi in North Karelia, also a wild dog
    pack , who had come from Russia. How much these animals were ” dogs ”
    and how much ” wolves ” is unclear . Hybrid packs are discovered all the
    time , says Lauri Kontro .

    Hybrids in Finnish wolf population

    He believes that it may even be that the whole of the Finnish wolf population consists of hybrids.

    “We know very little about what happened when the Soviet Union
    collapsed. The Soviet border guards used the canine which was a mixture
    of laika and wolf and where they went we do not know”, says Lauri

    “Cultured wolves”

    Another problem in Finland
    are the “wolf friends” on the Russian side , with financial support from
    Germany and elsewhere grow wolf in captivity and then releasing wolves
    in the wild.

    These people are paying a little more than skin
    value [??]. Therefore sells some Russian hunters wolf pups for “wolf
    lovers ” who then breed puppies and release wolves in the wild. One of
    these ” wolf friends ‘ claims that he so far has ” liberated ” some 50
    wolves. “Most likely , we have received many of these cultured wolves in
    Finland”, says Lauri Kontro.

  • Chandie Bartell

    I think people will understand this, Steve. In the latest paragraph the
    meaning is that wolf hunters on the russian side gets little or no money
    for the pelt of the pups and sell some to ‘the dark side’ for more
    money so to speak.

    One of them, a russian, is on the run now for participating in the process.…/Russian+officials…/1329103753066