November 23, 2017

Claiming Others Are Not Credible Is Not Credible

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Mainly because saying someone is not credible without proving they are incredible points the finger right back at the one making the claim of non credibility. Thus the claim for example that the Tom Remington web site is not credible has been proven to be a non credible claim.. By of course alleged friends of our past.. Friends who were not friends at all.. Because any type of information that is contrary of and not embedded in your core beliefs does not mean the people sharing the information are deserving of a claim of non credibility.. Thus the false claim makes the claimant a liar with no credibility.. Guess what geniuses… Most core beliefs are not credible.. Are in fact incredible.. Such as people signing private contracts that were for all people of a society, how silly that one is.. And another, that all people of a society own all of the forests as shareholders… Both fairy tales are right up there with the tooth fairy and rabbits laying eggs and other childish nonsense..

So if you claim I am not credible, The Remington Website is not credible, and you fail to support that with evidence, you then are making an incredible statement. A lie.

credible (adj.) Look up credible at Dictionary.com“believable,” late 14c., from Latin credibilis “worthy to be believed,” from credere (see credo). Related: Credibly.credibility (n.) Look up credibility at Dictionary.com1590s, from Medieval Latin credibilitas, from Latin credibilis (see credible). Credibility gap is 1966, American English, in reference to official statements about the Vietnam War.incredible (adj.) Look up incredible at Dictionary.comearly 15c., “unbelievable, surpassing belief as to what is possible,” from Latin incredibilis “not to be believed, extraordinary,” from in- “not” (see in- (1)) + credibilis “worthy of belief” (see credible). Used c. 1400 in a now-extinct sense of “unbelieving, incredulous.” Related: Incredibly; incredibility

Then we have the word believe, or belief..

believe (v.) Look up believe at Dictionary.comOld English belyfan “to believe,” earlier geleafa (Mercian), gelefa (Northumbrian), gelyfan (West Saxon) “believe,” from Proto-Germanic *ga-laubjan “to believe,” perhaps literally “hold dear, love” (source also of Old Saxon gilobian “believe,” Dutch geloven, Old High German gilouben, German glauben), ultimately a compound based on PIE *leubh- “to care, desire, love” (see belief).

Spelling beleeve is common till 17c.; then altered, perhaps by influence of relieve, etc. To believe on instead of in was more common in 16c. but now is a peculiarity of theology; believe of also sometimes was used in 17c. Related: Believed (formerly occasionally beleft); believing. Expression believe it or not attested by 1874; Robert Ripley’s newspaper cartoon of the same name is from 1918. Emphatic you better believe attested from 1854.

belief (n.) Look up belief at Dictionary.comlate 12c., bileave, “confidence reposed in a person or thing; faith in a religion,” replacing Old English geleafa “belief, faith,” from West Germanic *ga-laubon “to hold dear, esteem, trust” (source also of Old Saxon gilobo, Middle Dutch gelove, Old High German giloubo, German Glaube), from *galaub- “dear, esteemed,” from intensive prefix *ga- + PIE root *leubh- “to care, desire, like, love” (see love (v.)). The prefix was altered on analogy of the verb believe. The distinction of the final consonant from that of believe developed 15c.

The be-, which is not a natural prefix of nouns, was prefixed on the analogy of the vb. (where it is naturally an intensive) …. [OED]

Meaning “conviction of the truth of a proposition or alleged fact without knowledge” is by 1530s; it is also “sometimes used to include the absolute conviction or certainty which accompanies knowledge” [Century Dictionary]. From c. 1200 as “a creed, essential doctrines of a religion or church, things held to be true as a matter of religious doctrine;” the general sense of “That which is believed” is by 1714. Related: Beliefs.

Belief meant “trust in God,” while faith meant “loyalty to a person based on promise or duty” (a sense preserved in keep one’s faith, in good (or bad) faith, and in common usage of faithful, faithless, which contain no notion of divinity). But faith, as cognate of Latin fides, took on the religious sense beginning in 14c. translations, and belief had by 16c. become limited to “mental acceptance of something as true,” from the religious use in the sense of “things held to be true as a matter of religious doctrine.”

Knowledge;

knowledge (n.) Look up knowledge at Dictionary.comearly 12c., cnawlece “acknowledgment of a superior, honor, worship;” for first element see know (v.). The second element is obscure, perhaps from Scandinavian and cognate with the -lock “action, process,” found in wedlock.

From late 14c. as “capacity for knowing, understanding; familiarity;” also “fact or condition of knowing, awareness of a fact;” also “news, notice, information; learning; organized body of facts or teachings.” Sense of “sexual intercourse” is from c. 1400. Middle English also had a verb form, knoulechen “acknowledge” (c. 1200), later “find out about; recognize,” and “to have sexual intercourse with” (c. 1300); compare acknowledge.

 

Here’s one I like;

con (v.2) Look up con at Dictionary.com“to swindle,” 1896, from con (adj.). Related: Conned; conning.

Swindled into false core beliefs..

Here’s some terms that come to mind;

coward (n.) Look up coward at Dictionary.commid-13c., from Old French coart “coward” (no longer the usual word in French, which has now in this sense poltron, from Italian, and lâche), from coe “tail,” from Latin coda, popular dialect variant of cauda “tail,” which is of uncertain origin + -ard, an agent noun suffix denoting one that carries on some action or possesses some quality, with derogatory connotation (see -ard).

The word probably reflects an animal metaphoric sense still found in expressions like turning tail and tail between legs. Coart was the name of the hare in Old French versions of “Reynard the Fox.” Italian codardo, Spanish cobarde are from French.

The identification of coward & bully has gone so far in the popular consciousness that persons & acts in which no trace of fear is to be found are often called coward(ly) merely because advantage has been taken of superior strength or position …. [Fowler]

As a surname (attested from 1255) it represents Old English cuhyrde “cow-herd.” Farmer has coward’s castle “a pulpit,” “Because a clergyman may deliver himself therefrom without fear of contradiction or argument.”cowardice (n.) Look up cowardice at Dictionary.comc. 1300, from Old French coardise (13c.), from coard, coart (see coward) + noun suffix -ise.

Cowardice, as distinguished from panic, is almost always simply a lack of ability to suspend the functioning of the imagination. [Ernest Hemingway, “Men at War,” 1942]

cowardly (adj.) Look up cowardly at Dictionary.com1550s, from coward + -ly (1). The adverb (late 14c.) is much older than the adjective:

Yit had I levir do what I may Than here to dye thus cowerdelye [“Le Morte d’Arthur,” c. 1450]

An Old English word for “cowardly” was earg, which also meant “slothful.” Related: Cowardliness.

“Descriptive Knowledge” says this: “The difference between knowledge and beliefs is as follows:. A belief is an internal thought or memory which exists in one’s mind. Most people accept that for a belief to be knowledge it must be, at least, true and justified.”

I don’t know about that subject and I don’t want to know about that subject and behind your back I’m going to claim you have  no credibility..

THE WORD, BELIEVE
The word “believe” has an ancient etymology, and is derived from the Sanskrit.
It is a portmanteau, a combination of two short words; “bel” and “eve”. It has gone through countless variations through time, and “bal” and eva” are two of the earliest.
When one examines the concepts these words were used for conceptually, we find that this is a dialectical portmanteau, with a tension of the opposites extant in it’s meaning.
“Bel”: has to do with jejune, rebellion, angst and “belligerence”, “bellum” “Bal” {an evil entity}, “ballistic” and a long nomenclature of similar conceptualizations put into a descriptive word.
“Eve”: has to do with nurture, nature, empathy, compassion, love, and understanding, equilibrium… also a lengthily nomenclature.
The original conjunction actually expressed an error of thinking, which comes back to us in more modern times in the form of “True Believer”, irrational certainty, fanaticism, and again associated with ‘bellum’ or war, and destruction.
This is why I make an attempt not to use the words ‘believe’, and ‘belief’ when self referencing. I like to use the term I “think” or “it is my opinion”. Or, “beyond reasonable doubt”, when making a strong judgment of my opinion.
[If I do use the term self descriptively, I mean it in the very soft and vague popular sense]
Belief is best defined in terms of “faith”, of believing without the need of proofs, as is demanded of many of the major organized religions. And this is where the word again takes on its original connotations, of erroneous thinking.

There is nothing wrong with not believing anything someone says or writes. Thats intelligent. I don’t believe anything people say or write. While being a guy that collects and reads several books I simply point out some things in my read searching, particularly in the International law category that is factual. yet still I advise others to go read it for themselves.

The legalese says what it says and your governments actions validating those terms speaks volumes.. So in my read searching I’ve discovered many people saying things and writing things, although very articulate and well thought out are quite wrong concerning the legal aspect of those various issues.. Especially involving land ownership of not only private but also public lands.. And of course the myth that “We Are the People” referred to in a certain contractual agreement signed by a few men..

Who did that for themselves and their Posterity not your great great grandaddy’s posterity leading down to you, or myself.. I believe we ALL should be good read searchers thus seeking out whether certain things we would like to believe or perhaps have believed in for most of our lives turn out to be true or myth.. Especially in the question of defining legal terms connected to international compacts constitutions contracts private agreements because that is what those legal instruments are. And those legal instruments represent the signatories and their Posterity period..

“Merely putting a word in the form of a derogatory phrase creates in the mind of the listener the impression of something unsavory. People who care about the truth are mere “truthers,” after all. Tenth amendment supporters are “tenthers.” Those who prepare for the future are “preppers.” Want to demonize someone who does good things? Call them a do-gooder!
Language is the great tool of the tyrants. It always has been, and always will be. Patriots are expected to abide by a PATRIOT Act that destroys their Bill of Rights, support “surgical strikes” against “enemy combatants” by the Department of “Defense,” and cheer the award of the Nobel Peace Prize to those who wage war.
Our language has been weaponized against us.”~James Corbett

Ad homenim such as they are not credible is not an argument, it is an admission of ignorance. When done behind their backs it is an admission of cowardice..

For the majority of the right versus left masses there is apparently no solution to the false core beliefs condition..

 

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  • RattlerRider

    Claiming another is incredible without backing it up with facts is proving the claimant to be making an incredible claim. Worse failing at backing up ones own core beliefs when those beliefs are challenged or simply questioned should raise some concerns with the believer at their own failing to defend their core beliefs..

  • TRemington

    The concept becomes a challenge. Since our beginnings we have been trained to weaponize words because we evidently lack the knowledge and facts to form any kind of defense of our claims. This often becomes the classic “think before opening your mouth,” or the old adage that it is better to keep your mouth shut causing others to wonder of your intelligence than to open your mouth and remove all doubt.

    We are all guilty to some degree with reactionary anger, saying stupid things and making ourselves to look really dumb. That is but one form of reality. It is when, having had the chance to do some “read searching” and/or to let the moment of anger to pass, we insist on perpetuating our own cowardice and incredibility, that goes beyond anything excusable except to observe one’s laziness, as you say.

    In our own insecurities, I guess we feel the need to do all that we can to place another person in one of their pets definitions which are a part of their life.

    I like to share what I have learned. It is unbelievable when in doing so, I am berated for being a know-it-all and in one instance I was accused of micro-managing the Internet. I didn’t realize I wielded that kind of power and authority. I guess that can be pretty scary to some.

    • RattlerRider

      “Micromanaging the internet.”.. priceless..

  • RattlerRider

    Jesus proclaims The Law in, Matthew 12:50 (Jesus’ Mother and Brothers), when We read –

    46As he was yet speaking to the multitudes, behold his mother and
    his brethren stood without, seeking to speak to him. 47And one said
    unto him: Behold thy mother and thy brethren stand without, seeking
    thee. 48But he answering him that told him, said: Who is my mother, and
    who are my brethren? 49And stretching forth his hand towards his
    disciples, he said: Behold my mother and my brethren. 50For whosoever
    shall do the will of my Father, that is in heaven, he is my brother, and
    sister, and mother.

    Matthew 12

    http://biblehub.com/drb/matthew/12.htm

    Source:

    Matthew 12:50

    http://biblehub.com/matthew/12-50.htm

    ‘You that work iniquity’ are as false prophets, when we plainly see
    Jesus proclaiming The Law as our Father’s Will given to us as
    ‘freewill’, when we read, Matthew 7:21 (A Tree and its Fruit) –

    15Beware of false prophets, who come to you in the clothing of
    sheep, but inwardly they are ravening wolves. 16By their fruits you
    shall know them. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles?
    17Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit, and the evil tree
    bringeth forth evil fruit. 18A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit,
    neither can an evil tree bring forth good fruit. 19Every tree that
    bringeth not forth good fruit, shall be cut down, and shall be cast into
    the fire. 20Wherefore by their fruits you shall know them.

    21Not every one that saith to me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into
    the kingdom of heaven: but he that doth the will of my Father who is in
    heaven, he shall enter into the kingdom of heaven. 22Many will say to me
    in that day: Lord, Lord, have not we prophesied in thy name, and cast
    out devils in thy name, and done many miracles in thy name? 23And then
    will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, you that
    work iniquity.

    Matthew 7

    http://biblehub.com/drb/matthew/7.htm

    Source:

    Matthew 7:21

    http://biblehub.com/matthew/7-21.htm

    And what did Jesus say of those he described as ‘You that work inquity’, taken from John 8:44 (The Children of the Devil) –

    42Jesus therefore said to them: If God were your Father, you
    would indeed love me. For from God I proceeded, and came; for I came not
    of myself, but he sent me: 43Why do you not know my speech? Because you
    cannot hear my word. 44You are of your father the devil, and the
    desires of your father you will do. He was a murderer from the
    beginning, and he stood not in the truth; because truth is not in him.
    When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and
    the father thereof. 45But if I say the truth, you believe me not.
    46Which of you shall convince me of sin? If I say the truth to you, why
    do you not believe me? 47He that is of God, heareth the words of God.
    Therefore you hear them not, because you are not of God.

    John 8:44

    http://biblehub.com/drb/john/8.htm

    Source:

    John 8:44

    http://biblehub.com/john/8-44.htm

    Do not think that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets. I am not come to destroy, but to fulfill.

    Matthew 5:17

    http://biblehub.com/drb/matthew/5.htm

    Source:

    Parallel Verses

    Matthew 5:17

    http://biblehub.com/matthew/5-17.htm

    THE UNPARDONABLE SIN

    What is the blashemy of the spirit ? We read –

    Therefore I say to you: Every sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven
    men, but the blasphemy of the Spirit shall not be forgiven. And
    whosoever shall speak a word against the Son of man, it shall be
    forgiven him: but he that shall speak against the Holy Ghost, it shall
    not be forgiven him, neither in this world, nor in the world to come.

    The Unpardonable Sin

    (Mark 3:31-32)

    The spirit can be seen as, ‘the Will of my Father’ –

    For whosoever shall do the will of my Father, that is in heaven, he is my brother, and sister, and mother.

    Jesus’ Mother and Brothers

    (Mark 3:31-35; Luke 8:19-21)

    Source:

    Matthew 12

    http://biblehub.com/drb/matthew/12.htm

    Parallel Verses

    Matthew 12:50

    http://biblehub.com/matthew/12-50.htm

    THE HOLY GHOST IS THE SPIRIT THAT IS THE WILL OF OUR FATHER

    Definition of Holy Spirit

    noun. (In Christianity) the third person of the Trinity; God as spiritually active in the world.

    Holy Spirit

    http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/english/holy-spirit

    Etymology of Spirit (noun)

    “essential nature, essential quality.”

    spirit (n.)

    http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?term=spirit&allowed_in_frame=0

    Comment.-

    Beware of those who do not think ‘freewill’ is not an essential quality of man or is not a part of his essential nature.

    Holy Spirit (Christianity)

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holy_Spirit_(Christianity)

    Comment.-

    God’s scared Spirit or Will that is active in the world.

  • RattlerRider
  • RattlerRider

    “You remember Gary Wilson? He also claimed I have no credibility.. He did it straight up to my face not behind my back.. Whereupon I produced a resources list backing myself up.. To date he has made no return reply.. In other words he did not back it up.. Fact is Bobalee also did it to my face.. She also never backed it up.. So the claims have no credibility whatsoever. Can you imagine anyone being so cowardly as to make such a claim behind a mans back? Or perhaps behind a couple of mens backs? That would be mighty low down in my book.. Now Barry Coe, there is a mans man right there now.. He said straight up out in the open I do have credibility.. I back up what i say..”

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