December 6, 2019

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Did Quimby Send “FAKE” Letter to Sec. Zinke About KW&W Support?

“In the midst of review, Quimby and other monument proponents have boosted their efforts to retain the designation, including the drafting of a fake letter sent to Secretary of the Interior Ryan Zinke on May 3 that found its way into the hands of the Bangor Daily News (BDN), who did little homework before printing their partisan report.

On May 10, the BDN published an article titled “Former critics sign letter asking to preserve Maine monument.” There’s just one problem – nobody actually signed the letter.”<<<Read More>>>

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I would suggest that you also read this article about how the Federal Government goes about their business of taking lands in or near national monuments, along with the control they assume over those private lands.

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Will Quimby’s New Obama Playground Destroy Baxter State Park?

Oh, the cries to protect wilderness! Many cried to protect the beauty and the “wilderness” of the Yellowstone National Park. And did they? I suppose it depends on your political perspective definition of what “wilderness” is…right Slick Willie?

Yellowstone, often described as the model of how all lands should be “protected” has limited access but fits boldly into the model of an urban, sterile society, too damned lazy to get out of their plush, climate controlled automobiles to enjoy the actual wilderness. Wilderness seems to have morphed into a drive through municipal zoo. But don’t tell anyone.

So Roxanne Quimby, insisting on protecting Maine’s forests and wilderness, cried in the urban jungle to the corrupt politicians for a national park on her land. Not getting her way, yet, she had to settle for the work of cronyism from President Obama – some sort of reciprocating nonsense due to him appointing her to the board of the National Parks – and a national monument designation.

The question I have always had, and one that I read just this morning that someone else had expressed, is how do you protect “wilderness” by building and paving roads, erecting buildings, running infrastructure, such as water, sewer and electricity. Makes little sense.

Baxter State Park has a long common boundary with the new ObamaQuimby playground. The parks director is legitimately concerned about what effect visitors to the Katahdin Woods and Waters (KW&W) will have on Baxter. The director says that, “In order to preserve its wilderness as much as possible, Baxter strives to limit access to about 75,000 visitors annually.”

The director also shares the existing troubles of managing the park because Mt. Katahdin in the terminus of the Appalachian Trail. “Trail officials have been working with Baxter leaders for more than two years to alleviate chronic friction points, such as litter, alcohol and drug use on the trail, as well as large groups ascending Baxter Peak to party in celebration of a hiker’s completion of the mammoth journey. Too many thru-hikers were inviting large parties into campgrounds set aside for trail hikers, and bringing dogs falsely marked as service animals, Bissell has said.” Yes, Americans are so conscientious about protecting “wilderness.”

It’s difficult to get any sense of how concerned the Baxter director should be. While the same Bangor Daily News article states that there has already been some visitors to the Katahdin Woods and Waters, it would be my guess that curiosity is the motivating factor. Once they see that there is nothing to see, word will spread and visitors will be limited…that is until such time as they pave roads, build lodging, put in restaurants, snack bars and souvenir stands. Don’t forget the street lights and lighted parking lots. Remember, all in the name of protecting the wilderness, Mainers were sold the story that a national monument/park would boost the local economy. That’s what protecting wilderness is about. Doublespeak is what all that was and is.

Are there restrictions on what can and can’t be built on National Monument land? Yes, but that is left up to political perspective. Roads and buildings can be erected so long as they fulfill the directives and the purposes of the national monument. But isn’t the ultimate goal here a national park, where they can do anything they want, including the banning of hunting, trapping, fishing, use of ATVs and snowmobiles, etc.? It’s easy to lie and tell the people they will be able to carry on with some of the usual recreation activities on restricted portions of the land, while it’s a national monument. What about after it becomes a park?

The concern by the director of Baxter State Park, is that visitors to the KW&W will cross over the boundary on Baxter’s eastern boundary, which is managed as pretty much actual wilderness, and destroy it with their filth and decadence. It will happen, sooner or later.

Will the “wilderness” of KW&W end up like all the others – paved roads, buildings and retail shops – where lazy visitors can cruise around the paved roads, smogging up the landscape, discarding their trash, defecating beside the road and at pullout sites? Will it expand and destroy Baxter State Park? Will Baxter Park get swallowed up by KW&W like Roxanne Quimby first envisioned?

Time will tell.

And just as a reminder,

DON’T GO LOOK!

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Quimby Deeds Her Land To “The Lamb With Two Horns That Speaks Like a Dragon”

I read in the Bangor Daily News of the transfer of deeds of around 87,000 acres of land from Roxanne Quimby to the United States Government – presumably the next step toward President Obama, by Executive Order, designating the lands that contain nothing, a National Monument.

In that article, Maine Rep. Stephen Stanley was quoted as saying, “I’m a property rights person, and [Quimby has] got the right to do what she wants with her own property.” For those readers who have spent enough time on this website should realize, I, too, am a property rights person. The difference in what is stated above and my position is that, while Quimby does have a right, within the laws that govern the holder of a land deed, it’s very little of my business what she does unless she opts to deed the land over to the “Lamb with Two Horns” (U.S. Government Rev. 13:11) By carrying out such an act, it forces me and other Americans, to pay the prices connected with another piece of government land. In short, it now becomes the business of everyone and as such should be expected to speak out for or against the action.

Now that the U.S. Government (the lamb that has the voice of a dragon) has taken possession of the land, the collective of head-burying troglodytes, can believe that the Federal Government will take care of this new land, differently than all the rest. Refusing to identify the ineptitude, real or planned, of the Feds, idiots will go about business believing all the utter nonsense they have been told about what having a national monument will do. I suspect that beginning today, Mainers will be lining up to get into the land that has nothing, and will always have nothing. That’s how the Feds “manage” and “care for” Federal lands. Essentially the land is turned into a useless piece of nothingness. To move that planned event of scarcity to it’s earliest success, I expect soon to hear about plans to introduce wolves, perhaps even mountain lions.

Before I continue, I would like for Ms. Quimby to answer a question for me. If, as is stated in the BDN article, the main purpose of buying and deeding land to the U.S. Government, is to protect as much of the vast Maine woods in it’s natural state as possible, why then is the wish to turn the land into a park where you have told people thousands and thousands will come and visit yearly bringing millions of dollars to local businesses? If the purpose is to protect a “natural” piece of land, I would think the last thing I would want to do is turn the land into something that it isn’t (unnatural) and invite the world to come and destroy it. But what do I know?

Into the future, the parade of lies will continue. After all, the United States Corporation has existed for more than two centuries now on selling the people lies. Certainly it will not stop now. Quimby and her pack of environmentalists did all they could to create fake information that would be used to influence public opinion. They did well, although I realize it mattered not. The fix was in long ago. Perhaps she and her gaggle of blind, save-the-planet dupes, mired in the Ditch of insanity, learned how to do this through the outreach of the Tavistock Institute of Public Relations. Surely we saw some of those techniques on display at the Delphi Technique-led, fake public meetings.

Americans don’t get it. But that doesn’t bother them. They don’t want to get it. It’s easier and feels better to insert your head as deeply into anything that will deaden the sound and cause blindness. For centuries, Americans have been lied to – lied to by the Lamb with the voice of a Dragon and all those who refuse to “come out of her.” After the lies, nothing changes. All the promises, all the “science,” all the fake public opinion polls, are cast aside. The government is left with more and the people are left with less. And we like it! So much so we help them to achieve the goals that ultimately will destroy us all – except for a few remaining slaves to care for the Posterity.

This event is identical to all political campaigns. Lie, cheat and steal, and present yourself as a lamb. Once those striving to become a part of the whore, get what they want, the “lamb” becomes the “dragon.”

I would rather Roxanne Quimby stripped her land of every twig of lumber, mined every conceivable mineral and possible resource, rendering it completely worthless, than to have given it over to the Dragon.

However, the Dragon and the Beast, already own and control that land, so what Quimby says and does, doesn’t really matter.

Open mine eyes that I may see!

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SAM’s Executive Director Testifies Before House Subcommittee on Quimby National Monument

Condensed SAM Testimony
Delivered by David Trahan, June 1, 2016

It is SAM’s mission to defend the rights of sportsmen and firearm owners. In addition, we promote the responsible conservation of our natural resources. On several occasions, including last year, we polled our members on whether they supported the creation of a National Park for the Katahdin region of Maine, as proposed by Roxanne Quimby. Each time the answer was a resounding NO, with our last poll at 92% opposition.

Through the generations Mainers have struck a delicate balance with landowners, sharing the land for all sorts of recreational uses, like hunting, fishing, trapping, and snowmobiling. Over time, large landowners have leased land and camps to outdoor recreationists, and as a result, thousands of camps have sprung up in the wilds of Maine. During these adventures into the Maine woods, moms, dads, grandfathers, uncles, aunts, and friends learned how to hunt, fish, camp, and conserve our natural resources, and in the process built bonds that made families stronger, and men and women better citizens.

Unfortunately, that delicate balance between landowners and Mainers was threatened in the early 1990s when the radical group Restore the North Woods appeared on the scene. They proposed abandoning traditional recreation like hunting, snowmobiling, and other motorized recreation, as well as ending logging. Instead, they proposed creating a 3.2-million acre wilderness National Park surrounding Baxter State Park. The opposition to this attempt to place northern Maine in federal ownership was swift, and overwhelming.<<<Read the Rest>>>

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Maine’s National Monument Proposal: Pingree Lies, Quimby to Give Government Land She Doesn’t Own

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A brief news item in the Portland Press Herald yesterday said that U.S. House of Representative official from Maine, Chellie Pingree, has sent President Obama a letter asking him to support a fascist and dictatorial maneuver to create, through Executive Order, a National Monument in Maine on land, not all of which is owned by Roxanne Quimby, the founder of Burt’s Bees and supporter of double standards, in which as a large capitalist landowner, works to make sure no others share in land ownership or capitalism.

On this news article, I have two questions and/or comments.

First, Quimby is asking that Obama declare 87,500 acres of land in Maine for a National Monument. She does not own 87,500 acres and yet she is giving it to Obama. How can that happen?

Second, Rep. Chellie Pingree, according to this article, in her letter to Obama in support of the monument designation, wrote that, “most people in the region and throughout the state” support a national monument designation. Someone needs to call Pingree out on this and seek substantiation of that claim. Several meetings held in the “region” have overwhelmingly been against a park or a monument.

But this kind of behavior by a corrupt, nasty, dirty rotten politician (they all are the same) has become commonplace and evidently an accepted way of life in politics.

What a disgrace!

People fail to recognize the noose they make for themselves.

*Update* – June 1, 2016 10:30 a.m.

In the article linked-to above, after reading over the comments left by readers, I’m really not convinced that many, if any, readers actually understand what the designation of National Monument, National Park, etc. means. It is next to impossible to be specific about any land controlled by the Federal Government until after it has happened.

Many readers left comments stating that it shouldn’t matter about the state or federal governments accepting land, after all, it’s a gift. While that may be true, some even are of the impression that a landowner can specify covenants and restrictions for use of the land. Good luck with that pipe dream.

Aside from all the good and bad that everyone is eager to rave about this monument proposal, before making an informed decision, should understand that once any land comes under complete control of the government, restrictions are immediately put into place. No government land is free of limitations and restrictions. Think about it.

We do not know, nor will be find out, about any plans, changes, limitations or restrictions until after the fact…usually. That’s how government works.

As an example of our ignorance about land designations and the Federal Government, consider land that the Feds have deemed “Wilderness.” What does that mean? Does it mean as in the purist sense? Is it value laden and under whose “values” are regulations devised? Do the Feds control completely access to and use of the land by the public?

Perhaps this link will help anyone who actually cares, understand that once land is in the hands of government, there is very little that the citizens, including those so eager to accept a gift of land, can do about it.

So long as the ignorant masses blindly believe a gift of land, to be controlled by government, is always a good thing, the practice of giving power to a president to take that land as a national monument, without Congressional approval or voter oversight, will continue. We don’t have much say in how the land should be used, and don’t believe for a minute that any government is interested in our concerns.

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Gov. LePage’s Attempt to Block Quimby “Monument” Ends in Fluff With No Puff

Some used to think we lived in a democracy, of which they also considered a good thing. No longer and it was never good and only slightly better than an oligarchy, dictatorship, etc. It is quite clear from events in Maine that the people aren’t interested in another useless national park, one that, if established, would not be taken care of, because the U.S. Government can’t take care of what they have now. But, I guess that’s neither here nor there in this day and age of uncontrolled totalitarianism, and the forcing of the wills of those in power onto those that should be called subjects.

Due to the opposition of many Maine residents to a national park near Baxter State Park, by the wishes of the land owner, Roxanne Quimby, efforts for a park, which requires a vote in Congress, have become efforts to convince the current oligarchical president, Obama, to use his executive “privilege” and, while closing his eyes, to the unappealing-in-any-way land, grant it as a National Monument. It matters not whether the proposed monument land has all the qualifications for a monument designation. It’s about politics. Well, isn’t it?

Maine’s governor Paul LePage is opposed to Federal intrusion, which is what a park or monument would do, and has sought some kind of legislation that might prohibit either action. His latest attempt was to craft some sort of law that would force ownership of the land back to the original owner if that land was purchased or given to the U.S. Government and designated as a park or monument. Those of us with curious minds would have loved to see how that would have worked out.

The Maine Governor’s huffing and puffing, ended benignly, when his proposed bill, LD 1600, was amended to read that the State of Maine doesn’t wish to have another national park or a national monument. Here’s how the summary read: “This amendment is the minority report of the committee. It removes the requirement for a reverter clause in a deed and conveyance or title papers in the event that land is given by the State to the Federal Government and the Federal Government attempts to designate such land a national monument. It adds language specifying that, in the case of designation of property as a national monument, the consent of the Legislature is not given to the Federal Government for the acquisition of land.”

In an article in the Portland Press Herald, it states: “Bill opponents questioned whether the measure would violate private property rights or violate the U.S. Constitution.” What property rights? The only property rights that exist individually are those we are allowed to have, i.e. the right to pay the king his tribute for using the land. Once the king decides there are other uses, those granted privileges are taken away.

We know that whatever the president does or whatever the Congress does, nothing is unconstitutional. We must learn to get over this myth. Article I, Section 8 of the United States Constitution says, in part: “To make all Laws which shall be necessary and proper for carrying into Execution the foregoing Powers, and all other Powers vested by the Constitution in the Government of the United States, or in any Department or Officer thereof.”

For those unaware of Section 8, it is a long laundry list of the Powers granted unto Congress with the establishment of the U.S. Constitution. The above clause becomes the “general article,” similar to the Uniform Code of Military Justice’s Article 134. For less studious minds, it’s similar to the “Coaches Rule” which reads: Rule one, the coach is always right. Rule two, refer to rule one.

The short of it is, Congress can do anything it damn well pleases because when they signed the Constitution (the people had nothing to say about it) they granted themselves a general article in which they can “make all Laws which are necessary and proper.” And don’t think for one minute that you or I have any say in what is “necessary and proper.” We all laughed when a reporter asked Nancy Pelosi, then Speaker of the House, if Obamacare was “constitutional” and her response was, “You gotta be kidding me.” She knew, we didn’t and can’t figure it out…yet.

Here’s the reality. If Roxanne Quimby is well-connected enough with Barack Obama, at the least she will get her national monument. Forget whether or not the president has certain powers. Those who can see should know by now the president is allowed, by Congress, to do just as he damn well pleases. And, we should know now that Congress has the power to do what it wishes. Maine, not a “sovereign” state as most falsely are led to believe, cannot stop any action the president or Congress decides to do. We gave up that sovereignty when we signed onto the United States Corporation contract.

What will happen with Ms. Quimby’s land actually depends upon how beholding Obama is to Quimby – how much money and support she has given Obama and whether or not her actions deserve his actions. That’s how the corrupt government works – always has and always will. But in our programmed insanity, we keep convincing ourselves the next election will change things. Uh, huh!

While the Maine governor, residents and legislators get their undies in a bunch over trying to stop Roxanne Quimby, the best that they can do is waste taxpayer’s money by drafting, amending, discussing and passing a bill that is nothing more than a resolution stating that a weak majority of House members don’t want Quimby’s park or monument.

It’s much akin to the large pit bull ordered to sic a man who was being a bully. The pit bull ran after the man, cornered him and began barking (in a soft feminine voice) bowsy-wowsy, bowsy-wowsy.

Fluff with no Puff!

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For Quimby, National Park or Nothing?

*Editor’s Note* – What Roxanne Quimby does with her land is her business. However, once she announced her wishes to turn her land into a national park, her business becomes the concern of all citizens of the United States.

Mr. Robbins suggests other interesting options for Ms. Quimby but I am still perplexed by her insistence that, “It’s a national park or nothing.” It makes little sense other than to believe there are behind-the-curtain, sinister deals at hand. What, I am not sure, but I have some ideas and have mentioned them in other articles written about this proposal.

We have a sitting president, the one who appointed Quimby to the board of directors of the National Park Foundation, who loves to get around the wishes of the public and follow the constitution by penning executive actions. Are we to expect that Obama will find a way to grant Ms. Quimby her wish and turn her land into a national park?

Quimby says there is no “Plan B.” We’ll see.

In 2000, Robbins Lumber put a conservation easement on the 20,767 acres surrounding Nicatous and West Lakes to protect the land forever. In addition, the state acquired 76 islands and 243 acres connecting to the Duck Lake Public Reserve Unit.

I told Roxanne Quimby about this project in 2011 at a meeting of the Maine Forest Products Council because I wanted her to know she had other options — options that would unite Mainers, not divide them. Her answer was, “There is no plan B. It is a national park or nothing. There are no other options.”

Source: There are non-national park options that make everybody a winner — Opinion — Bangor Daily News — BDN Maine

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Anti-Park Group Sends Letter Asking Quimby Family to Drop Idea 

*Editor’s Comment* – If you kick a dog enough times, eventually the dog will turn on you.

“Despite all your efforts and expenditures, the people of Medway and East Millinocket have now joined the Millinocket Town Council in resoundingly rejecting your plan for a national park,” the open letter continues. “The opposition in these towns is even more striking given the economic devastation the region has experienced with the demise of Great Northern Paper. Yet, as much as the Katahdin Region desperately needs investment and new jobs, the people in the towns that would be most impacted by your plans have told you ‘no.’ ”

Source: Anti-Park Group Sends Letter Asking Quimby Family to Drop Idea | Maine Public Broadcasting

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What if Quimby and St. Clair Understood Their Screw Up

*Editor’s Comment* – Roxanne Quimby took advantage of a semi-capitalist opportunity to make money. But she espouses to communism/socialism – Period. This makes little sense, unless you understand the real intent here. She bought lots of land – congratulations and good for her. Within our over-regulated world of fascism, she is entitle to do with her land as she so pleases – even locking it up so others can’t use it. However, you can’t expect to treat Maine people in the fashion she has and then turn around and ask the same people to jump on her totalitarian band wagon and support a limited use national park structured under the current growing fascist government.

Maine people are a unique clutch of independents with very long memories. Any group of people that would elect Ross Perot as their candidate for president of the United States has to be looked at as, if nothing else, unpredictable.

I am assuming that the biggest reason Ms. Quimby placed her son in the forefront is because she became toxic. Problem is, that toxicity has not dissipated. The independence of the Maine people and their desire to keep fascist government out of their state, combined with memories like elephants as to how Quimby treated them from the onset, is a very large hurdle, of which I’m not sure she can ever get over – at least not for a very long time.

I asked yesterday why it seemed so important that Quimby and St. Clair force an unwanted park onto the Maine people. Is she that big an egoist that she wants her name attached to a national park? Perhaps, I don’t know the woman.

If Quimby and St. Clair, along with their minions, believe that the park would be such a wonderful thing, that would bring jobs and whatever else one can trump up as a positive, then why doesn’t the woman create a private enterprise park? If it’s such a value to her, her son and the people of Maine, then surely her vision of a park would work just fine – wouldn’t it? Quimby claims she has money in trust to pay for the park. Is that money no good unless it’s a government park? If so, then just where, exactly, is this money coming from? China?

Nobody can tell me that a national park, run by a corrupt and inept government, that has proven itself incapable to caring for the parks and land they administer now, would do a Quimby park any good and thus nothing good for the State of Maine and her people.

It’s probably too late now, but as is suggested in this linked-to article, if Quimby had started off right, which would have been having a firm understanding of the people she would be dealing with, then perhaps a coalition of leaders, whose goal would be in the best interest of the local people and not a continuation of making poor slaves to government control, the region around Baxter might have a sweeter outlook for the future and a willingness to work with and not against the woman.

Source: What if Quimby and St. Clair worked with locals on a comprehensive economic plan for the Millinocket region? | Mainely Thoughts

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