November 27, 2022

So, Is Katahdin Woods and Waters Now On The Chopping Block?

Now that’s a laugh!

It has been announced that President Trump, citing the intent of the Antiquities Act, has reduced the sizes of a couple of National Monuments in Utah. After examining the press release does this mean places like Maine’s Katahdin Woods and Waters is scheduled for the chopping block?

That’s not likely going to happen, but one has to wonder why in Utah and not in other places? Or, are there more to come? What’s on that land in Utah that is important enough for Trump to do this and not in more places?

Maybe the best place to start is at the beginning. Below is a copy of the Antiquities Act of 1906, signed into law by President Theodore Roosevelt.


American Antiquities Act of 1906

16 USC 431-433

Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America in Congress assembled, That any person who shall appropriate, excavate, injure, or destroy any historic or prehistoric ruin or monument, or any object of antiquity, situated on lands owned or controlled by the Government of the United States, without the permission of the Secretary of the Department of the Government having jurisdiction over the lands on which said antiquities are situated, shall, upon conviction, be fined in a sum of not more than five hundred dollars or be imprisoned for a period of not more than ninety days, or shall suffer both fine and imprisonment, in the discretion of the court.

Sec. 2. That the President of the United States is hereby authorized, in his discretion, to declare by public proclamation historic landmarks, historic and prehistoric structures, and other objects of historic or scientific interest that are situated upon the lands owned or controlled by the Government of the United States to be national monuments, and may reserve as a part thereof parcels of land, the limits of which in all cases shall be confined to the smallest area compatible with proper care and management of the objects to be protected: Provided, That when such objects are situated upon a tract covered by a bona fied unperfected claim or held in private ownership, the tract, or so much thereof as may be necessary for the proper care and management of the object, may be relinquished to the Government, and the Secretary of the Interior is hereby authorized to accept the relinquishment of such tracts in behalf of the Government of the United States.

Sec. 3. That permits for the examination of ruins, the excavation of archaeological sites, and the gathering of objects of antiquity upon the lands under their respective jurisdictions may be granted by the Secretaries of the Interior, Agriculture, and War to institutions which the may deem properly qualified to conduct such examination, excavation, or gathering, subject to such rules and regulation as they may prescribe: Provided, That the examinations, excavations, and gatherings are undertaken for the benefit of reputable museums, universities, colleges, or other recognized scientific or educational institutions, with a view to increasing the knowledge of such objects, and that the gatherings shall be made for permanent preservation in public museums.

Sec. 4. That the Secretaries of the Departments aforesaid shall make and publish from time to time uniform rules and regulations for the purpose of carrying out the provisions of this Act.

Approved, June 8, 1906 

[Emboldening Added]

Section 1, clearly states that the intent of the Act is to protect “historic or prehistoric ruin or monument, or any object of antiquity.” These artifacts are those found on Federal Land and/or private lands that the private landowner has or will “relinquished to the Government.”

These so-called “antiquities” that needed protection, at the time of the creation of this act, were items that someone could,  “…appropriate, excavate, injure, or destroy any historic or prehistoric ruin or monument, or any object of antiquity.” The abuse that has happened in this regard wonders how someone might “appropriate, excavate, injure, or destroy” a view or a small river.

With that in mind, looking at Section 2, an honest examination of the Katahdin Woods and Waters has to bring forth the question as to what, precisely sits on the 87,563 acres of donated land that qualifies as, “historic landmarks, historic and prehistoric structures, and other objects of historic or scientific interest.”

If President Trump’s motivating factor for reducing the National Monuments in Utah was to limit the scope of land designated as protecting “historic landmarks, historic and prehistoric structures, and other objects of historic or scientific interest,” and there are no real “historic landmarks, historic and prehistoric structures, and other objects of historic or scientific interest” found at the Katahdin Woods and Waters site, should the president remove National Monument designation from that site and simply turn the land, given by Roxanne Quimby, over to management by the Bureau of Land Management or the U.S. Forest Service?

Argument will always be made as to the value-weighted perspective of what the Katahdin Woods and Waters has to offer that qualifies as worthy of protection. The only view of anything worthwhile is of Mt. Katahdin and that can be seen in many places throughout the region. Other than that everything else in the new park can be found commonly in many places across Maine and other states.

Removing designation will never happen but the point should be made that abuse of the Antiquities Act has repercussions, many of which will not be felt at the Katahdin Woods and Waters National Monument until sometime into the future. It is very little this administration can do that would justify a move to remove the entire national monument designation.

So Mainers are stuck with what there is.




Absolute Best View From Katahdin Woods and Waters National Monument

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The Left, The Right, Reality and Zinke’s Proposed Forest Management Practices

From the Left all we ever hear is “We’re all gonna die!” From the Right all we ever hear is “It’s about time we’re gonna get it right!” The reality is nothing ever changes. But, don’t go look. The Left/Right paradigm is fake but exists only in echoed rhetoric and that is exactly what we are seeing when Trump’s new Secretary of the Interior announced changes in forest management practices.

The West is burning up, as one report this morning stated. Forest fires are popping up everywhere and as is usually the case, the Left blames is on Global Warming, and the Right blames it on poor forest management practices that result in the creation of tinder boxes.

Another example of the emotional reactions of brainwashed and blinded people is that immediately fear mongering began about the possibility that a tree might now be cut on Maine’s new and mostly unwanted national monument, Katahdin Woods and Waters.

The Right claims that their intent is “a healthy forest through active timber management,” with never a definition of the intent – and that is for a reason. The Left threatens a lawsuit if Zinke tries to cut down one tree in Katahdin Woods and Waters.

St. Clair, the original owner’s son, who is now the front man, without having a clue what Zinke meant by changing forest management practices, said, “We didn’t donate this land to be used as a commercial timbering operation.”

And this is business as usual here in the U.S. of A. While nothing changes in the Federal Government, except that which the ruling establishment wants to change and Congress just does as they are told, a part of what never changes, which is the reason the Federal Government gets away with what they do, is that the Left and Right continue their reactions and responses in the usual manner. In this case, the Left says we’re all gonna die and the Right says it’s about time to get it right. And then it’s on to the next round of fake announcements and none of these mouthy people ever go back to examine exactly what took place.

I think James Beers, former member of the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service, says it quite well as to why nothing will change – except the emotional rhetoric that always accompanies false political announcement. The Left controls every aspect of government, as well as every non-governmental agency. Because of the infiltration and successful years of brainwashing and mind control throughout our indoctrination factories, even those, like Sec. Zinke, who, to the Left, appears to be a Rightist intent on destroying the forests, cannot help but do anything except what the Left desires – protect the forests and create the tinder boxes. Only politics calls for the political rhetoric to satisfy the voters of each perspective party.

Beers points out much the same when he says that the only way anything could change is through serious changes and/or repeals of certain draconian federal laws that prohibit change of any kind. And we know that will NEVER happen because it is not intended to happen. And so we keep on keeping on.

Beers writes in a recent email:

All of these above mentioned reasons for fuel accumulation and many, many other dwindling public land benefits that are slated for elimination by fiats, regulations and unjust law authorities granted federal bureaucrats in the past 40 to 50 years have a common taproot..  Past Administrations, their appointees and the bureaucrat “scientists” they have hired, all have this land closure and sustainable natural resource management elimination  as their ultimate goal.  Unless and until that “legal” (?) authorization for federal bureaucrats in federal laws like the ESA and Wilderness Act is either repealed or severely and specifically controlled in the specific federal laws authorizing such tyranny I don’t believe these somewhat generic and feel-good directives amount to anything.  The next Administration (look to all the Obama directives and letters, etc. on a wide variety of subjects) will simply issue their own directives (and probably in less than 9 months) and just drop the government truck into high gear and truck on down the road from where they left off on 19 January, 2017.

Because we cannot see, with each announced or “leaked” (that’s funny) change to anything, we will always keep hearing, we’re all gonna die, and it’s about time to get it right, but the truth is nothing ever changes, because “We the People” call all the shots and “we the people” have nothing to say about it – but we are trained to think we do.

Yep, somethings never change. Just more talk.


The Roads To Katahdin Woods and Waters


Dumb! Roads to Katahdin Woods and Waters Terrible

Strewn with holes, rocks and ruts, the seven private roads on the National Park Service map of Katahdin Woods and Waters National Monument are bumpy and sometimes narrow — not wide enough for more than one vehicle. Foliage blocks the view around many curves. Driving faster than 15 mph is dangerous. Loggers have the right of way, but few signs say so. Speed-limit signs also are rare.<<<Read More>>>


Interior Secretary Zinke to visit Katahdin national monument next week

*Editor’s Note* – It appears that Secretary Zinke will get the FULL experience of the Katahdin Woods and Waters, i.e. the report says he will go canoeing – as if this is the only place someone can go canoeing. In addition he will look at Mt. Katahdin – as if being in the monument is the only place to look at the mountain. But, most of all, he should get a good sampling of black flies and mosquitoes. I hope Sec. Zinke remembers that “black flies matter.”

“According to a press release from the Interior Department, Zinke will spend next Wednesday and Thursday in Maine. He will spend much of the day Wednesday touring the monument and on Thursday will meet with the local chamber of commerce, members of the Penobscot Nation and the Maine Woods Coalition.”<<<Read More>>>


Maine Rep. Poliquin’s Letter to Sec. Zinke Concerning Katahdin Woods and Waters

Maine Congressional representative Bruce Poliquin, upon request from Interior Secretary Ryan Zinke, has written a letter to express his thoughts and concerns going forward in an investigation into the designation as a National Monument continues.

Although repeated polls showed the majority of Mainers, specifically those in the immediate region of the Roxanne Quimby lands, opposed the National Monument (and Park) designation, I’m sure Quimby’s position on the Board of the National Park Service played a significant role in President Obama’s decision to make the appointment of a National Monument. It was first attempted by Quimby to convince the Federal Government to open a National Park. The opposition to such a move was quite significant and so Quimby sought then president Barack Obama to bypass the usual processes and so Obama, with the stroke of a pen, designated the newly formed Katahdin Woods and Waters.

President Trump has since, via Executive Power, ordered an investigation into many land designations, including Katahdin Woods and Waters, to see if anything can be done to remove the designation and if not what might be done to ensure what will be in the best interest of the Maine people.

Interior Secretary, Ryan Zinke, inquired of Rep. Bruck Poliquin, for information about the land and the process of its designation. Poliquin’s letter back to Zinke (included below) presents much of the same arguments used against the designation leading up to Obama’s executive action. However, different from previous thoughts on the issue, Poliquin is asking Sec. Zinke, that should Maine remain stuck with the National Monument, to somehow let Maine be in charge and control over the monument and not necessarily the Federal Government. I’m not sure how that would work, but it is an interesting thought – one I’m doubtful of and probably could not support without knowing more specifics.

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Katahdin Woods and Waters Discovers Mud Season, Black Flies Next

All I can say is it’s all very laughable.

“The north entrance to Katahdin Woods and Waters National Monument opened on Saturday, according to a brief notice on its U.S. Department of Interior website. But the monument’s main entrance, the 16-mile Katahdin Loop Road, is closed. Monument Superintendent Tim Hudson said he didn’t know when it would be dry enough to use.”<<<Read More>>>

People were sold that one of the “valuable and historic” elements of the Katahdin Woods and Waters was the preservation of its “wilderness.” Once the Federal Government finishes destroying that “wilderness” with paved roads, paved parking lots, paved picnic sites, paves scenic turnouts, paved parking areas to bathrooms, paved parking areas to lodge and concessions/souvenir shops, there will be no more mud season. Now the question will become, does the Federal Government plan on aerial over-spraying of DEET to reduce the black flies and mosquitoes to somewhere near tolerable levels? Ah, no because the “gift” shop can make much money selling insect repellents and nettings for the head.

And, the comments after the article are comical.

Public Welcome! Hunters and Trappers can go suck bog water!


Did Quimby Send “FAKE” Letter to Sec. Zinke About KW&W Support?

“In the midst of review, Quimby and other monument proponents have boosted their efforts to retain the designation, including the drafting of a fake letter sent to Secretary of the Interior Ryan Zinke on May 3 that found its way into the hands of the Bangor Daily News (BDN), who did little homework before printing their partisan report.

On May 10, the BDN published an article titled “Former critics sign letter asking to preserve Maine monument.” There’s just one problem – nobody actually signed the letter.”<<<Read More>>>


Katahdin Pie in the Sky

Daring to dream is often met head on with reality. Reality sometimes sucks and sometimes it’s much better than the dream. Once again we are faced with one’s perspective on what is desirable and what is prosperity.

I read Charles Lawton’s piece, “Approach Taken by Our Katahdin may Show the Way to Prosperity.” The foundation of the article seemed to be that both the tourism industry as well as the wood products industry can be “prosperous” in the Katahdin region – both at the same time.

I have to ask. What is prosperity and relative to what?

Let’s be real for a moment…if there really is such a thing. There is one thing and one thing only that keeps me going back to the Katahdin Region once every 20 years – there’s nobody there and the fishing can be pretty good. To prepare, I buy up an ample supply of bug dope. Aside from the “wilderness” about all there is is a glimpse at Mt. Katahdin and that can be done from Interstate 95. And, if you are one of the handful of people (by comparison) who would like to hike up the mountain, that can take a day.

The glamour (that would be one large sector of the public that see glamour in going some place where all the people that drove them there aren’t) of the area is what you see is what you get. I was taught by one of my ski coaches many years ago that you can’t make a good salad if all you have is lettuce.

So, can you live and run a business in the Katahdin region and be prosperous? Nobody’s figured that out so far. But then again what means prosperous? It appears that there’s a war of worlds, partly driven by the notion that millions of people crammed into the Katahdin Region would spell prosperity, YUK! And those that like the region because nobody is there. How much is good and how much is enough? What will spoil it? There’s already plenty of places to go where there’s too many people.

I was born and raised in Maine. I enjoyed the lifestyle…that is the outdoors, recreation, hunting, fishing, hiking, etc. It sucked being poor all the time, trying to be creative to come up with ways to pay the bills. Maine has a history of not producing year round jobs with benefits, especially when you choose to live in those areas that you share with the wood products industry and pretend you are a tourist destination. Large land owners and logging operations keep the “people from away” away. Isn’t that the attraction?

According to this article, this organization called Our Katahdin is planning for a future when there will be a “strip” running from Interstate 95, 15 miles to the entrance to Baxter State Park. This development will all happen as logging trucks, like bees to a hive, tool down the highway creating a cloud of dust – coexistence.

Evidently, this developing prosperity is going to be because Maine, and the Nation, now has a a piece of that land, of which the only appeal is gawking at trees and hoping to catch a glimpse of a mountain that is about as remarkable as the couple of books written about it, more often than not filled with tales of being lost.

I do recall that when I first began writing about hunting, fishing and other outdoor events, I was just coming out of spending many years in the tourism-related industry of hotel and motel management in Maine, along with owning my own bed and breakfast. After all, doesn’t every one think they can “retire” (prosperous) by opening up a bed and breakfast? Probably they dream about that as thoroughly as someone who actually believes they are going to “prosper” by the coexistence of logging and tourism in the same town – a town so removed it is why logging works and tourism doesn’t. Or, should I say logging used to work. I’ll spare the politics of why it’s a bit in trouble.

In the writing endeavor I quickly learned that there existed basically two kinds of outdoor sportsmen – those that thought Maine should spend gobs of money to advertise how great the hunting and fishing were, and those that thought it a better idea if things remained just as they are. Why spoil it? The war is real.

If you are in the tourism-related business, hauling them in by the bus loads seems a wonderful idea. Then what?

I remember stirring the ire of a lady one evening at a town meeting sponsored by the State of Maine gathering people’s thoughts on whether the state should undertake widening the Maine Turnpike. For those not familiar with Maine, it’s the only major highway entrance to the state from the south (Canada to the north and east). Most Mainers didn’t want more of “those from away” coming to their state. Those that didn’t grow up and live here, wanted it widened and even more major highways built saying that “where I come from we had….” I spoke up and asked if they were drawn to come live in the state for what it was, why is it that you now want to make it just like where you couldn’t wait to get the hell out of?

The way I see it, and I admit I’m as weird as weird can get, if the Katahdin Region has something there to attract more people, it would have already happened and maybe logging and tourism would live happily ever after.

In 20 years, I may eat my words, but the chances of Katahdin Woods and Waters National Monument attracting enough people to the region that “prosperity” sets in from tourism, are about as good as Mt. Desert Island tipping over due to too many people.